{"id":349,"date":"2014-06-19T16:30:03","date_gmt":"2014-06-19T16:30:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/?post_type=chapter&#038;p=349"},"modified":"2014-10-17T17:59:13","modified_gmt":"2014-10-17T17:59:13","slug":"among-school-children","status":"publish","type":"chapter","link":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/chapter\/among-school-children\/","title":{"raw":"Among School Children","rendered":"Among School Children"},"content":{"raw":"I\r\n\r\nI walk through the long schoolroom questioning;\r\nA kind old nun in a white hood replies;\r\nThe children learn to cipher and to sing,\r\nTo study reading-books and histories,\r\nTo cut and sew, be neat in everything\r\nIn the best modern way \u2014 the children's eyes\r\nIn momentary wonder stare upon\r\nA sixty-year-old smiling public man.[footnote]Yeats was a politician when he wrote the poem, a senator in the Irish Free State.\u00a0The inspiration for this poem was an official visit he made to a school in Waterford in 1926.[\/footnote]\r\n\r\nII\r\n\r\nI dream of a Ledaean[footnote]Maud Gonne, who was to Yeats the reincarnation of Helen of Troy, the \u201cLedaean body,\u201d in that her mother was Leda.\u00a0See notes to \u201cLeda and the Swan.\u201d[\/footnote]\u00a0body, bent\r\nAbove a sinking fire, a tale that she\r\nTold of a harsh reproof, or trivial event\r\nThat changed some childish day to tragedy \u2014\r\nTold, and it seemed that our two natures blent\r\nInto a sphere from youthful sympathy,\r\nOr else, to alter Plato's[footnote]The reference is to Greek philosopher Plato\u2019s <i>Symposium<\/i>, the parable being that the primitive human was spherical, like an egg, divided in the process of evolution.\u00a0Love is the desire to form the sphere again.[\/footnote]\u00a0parable,\r\nInto the yolk and white of the one shell.\r\n\r\nIII\r\n\r\nAnd thinking of that fit of grief or rage\r\nI look upon one child or t'other there\r\nAnd wonder if she stood so at that age \u2014\r\nFor even daughters of the swan can share\r\nSomething of every paddler's heritage \u2014\r\nAnd had that colour upon cheek or hair,\r\nAnd thereupon my heart is driven wild:\r\nShe stands before me as a living child.\r\n\r\nIV\r\n\r\nHer present image floats into the mind \u2014\r\nDid Quattrocento[footnote]Some 15th-century (\u201cQuattrocento\u201d) Italian painters painted women in the anorexic way Maud now appears to Yeats.[\/footnote]\u00a0finger fashion it\r\nHollow of cheek as though it drank the wind\r\nAnd took a mess of shadows for its meat?\r\nAnd I though never of Ledaean kind\r\nHad pretty plumage once \u2014 enough of that,\r\nBetter to smile on all that smile, and show\r\nThere is a comfortable kind of old scarecrow.\r\n\r\nV\r\n\r\nWhat youthful mother, a shape upon her lap\r\nHoney of generation[footnote]The neo-Platonic philosopher, Porphyry, believed that an ambrosia, honey-like drug was released at birth, and if the infant tasted it, he or she would forget about the bliss of prenatal happiness; but if he or she did not taste it, the infant would be condemned to a sad life because he or she would always search for the unattainable happiness of a previous life.[\/footnote]\u00a0had betrayed,\r\nAnd that must sleep, shriek, struggle to escape\r\nAs recollection or the drug decide,\r\nWould think her Son, did she but see that shape\r\nWith sixty or more winters on its head,\r\nA compensation for the pang of his birth,\r\nOr the uncertainty of his setting forth?\r\n\r\nVI\r\n\r\nPlato thought nature but a spume[footnote]Froth; insubstantial matter, in contrast, in Plato\u2019s view, to a real substantial ideal world, a \u201cparadigm of things.\u201d[\/footnote]\u00a0that plays\r\nUpon a ghostly paradigm of things;\r\nSolider Aristotle[footnote]Aristotle was \u201csolider\u201d in that he believed the physical world we experience is the real world, not the \u201cspume\u201d Plato believed it was.[\/footnote]\u00a0played the taws\r\nUpon the bottom of a king of kings;[footnote]Alexander the Great (356 \u2013 323 BC), leader of the Greek confederation, student of Aristotle who strapped him, \u201cplayed the taws,\u201d when he needed discipline.[\/footnote]\r\n<\/a>World-famous golden-thighed Pythagoras[footnote]Greek philosopher, venerated by his followers who thought he had a golden thigh, the sign of a god. He believed that the beauty of music reflected a universal harmony.[\/footnote]\r\n<\/a>Fingered upon a fiddle-stick or strings\r\nWhat a star sang and careless Muses heard:\r\nOld clothes upon old sticks to scare a bird.\r\n\r\nVII\r\n\r\nBoth nuns and mothers worship images,\r\nBut those the candles light are not as those\r\nThat animate a mother's reveries,\r\nBut keep a marble or a bronze repose.\r\nAnd yet they too break hearts \u2014 O presences\r\nThat passion, piety or affection knows,\r\nAnd that all heavenly glory symbolise \u2014\r\nO self-born mockers of man's enterprise;\r\n\r\nVIII\r\n\r\nLabour is blossoming or dancing where\r\nThe body is not bruised to pleasure soul.\r\nNor beauty born out of its own despair,\r\nNor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil.\r\nO chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer,\r\nAre you the leaf, the blossom or the bole[footnote]Stem or trunk.[\/footnote]?\r\nO body swayed to music, O brightening glance,\r\nHow can we know the dancer from the dance?\r\n\r\n<b>\u2014<\/b>\u00a01928","rendered":"<p>I<\/p>\n<p>I walk through the long schoolroom questioning;<br \/>\nA kind old nun in a white hood replies;<br \/>\nThe children learn to cipher and to sing,<br \/>\nTo study reading-books and histories,<br \/>\nTo cut and sew, be neat in everything<br \/>\nIn the best modern way \u2014 the children&#8217;s eyes<br \/>\nIn momentary wonder stare upon<br \/>\nA sixty-year-old smiling public man.<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"Yeats was a politician when he wrote the poem, a senator in the Irish Free State.\u00a0The inspiration for this poem was an official visit he made to a school in Waterford in 1926.\" id=\"return-footnote-349-1\" href=\"#footnote-349-1\" aria-label=\"Footnote 1\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[1]<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n<p>II<\/p>\n<p>I dream of a Ledaean<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"Maud Gonne, who was to Yeats the reincarnation of Helen of Troy, the \u201cLedaean body,\u201d in that her mother was Leda.\u00a0See notes to \u201cLeda and the Swan.\u201d\" id=\"return-footnote-349-2\" href=\"#footnote-349-2\" aria-label=\"Footnote 2\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[2]<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0body, bent<br \/>\nAbove a sinking fire, a tale that she<br \/>\nTold of a harsh reproof, or trivial event<br \/>\nThat changed some childish day to tragedy \u2014<br \/>\nTold, and it seemed that our two natures blent<br \/>\nInto a sphere from youthful sympathy,<br \/>\nOr else, to alter Plato&#8217;s<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"The reference is to Greek philosopher Plato\u2019s Symposium, the parable being that the primitive human was spherical, like an egg, divided in the process of evolution.\u00a0Love is the desire to form the sphere again.\" id=\"return-footnote-349-3\" href=\"#footnote-349-3\" aria-label=\"Footnote 3\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[3]<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0parable,<br \/>\nInto the yolk and white of the one shell.<\/p>\n<p>III<\/p>\n<p>And thinking of that fit of grief or rage<br \/>\nI look upon one child or t&#8217;other there<br \/>\nAnd wonder if she stood so at that age \u2014<br \/>\nFor even daughters of the swan can share<br \/>\nSomething of every paddler&#8217;s heritage \u2014<br \/>\nAnd had that colour upon cheek or hair,<br \/>\nAnd thereupon my heart is driven wild:<br \/>\nShe stands before me as a living child.<\/p>\n<p>IV<\/p>\n<p>Her present image floats into the mind \u2014<br \/>\nDid Quattrocento<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"Some 15th-century (\u201cQuattrocento\u201d) Italian painters painted women in the anorexic way Maud now appears to Yeats.\" id=\"return-footnote-349-4\" href=\"#footnote-349-4\" aria-label=\"Footnote 4\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[4]<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0finger fashion it<br \/>\nHollow of cheek as though it drank the wind<br \/>\nAnd took a mess of shadows for its meat?<br \/>\nAnd I though never of Ledaean kind<br \/>\nHad pretty plumage once \u2014 enough of that,<br \/>\nBetter to smile on all that smile, and show<br \/>\nThere is a comfortable kind of old scarecrow.<\/p>\n<p>V<\/p>\n<p>What youthful mother, a shape upon her lap<br \/>\nHoney of generation<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"The neo-Platonic philosopher, Porphyry, believed that an ambrosia, honey-like drug was released at birth, and if the infant tasted it, he or she would forget about the bliss of prenatal happiness; but if he or she did not taste it, the infant would be condemned to a sad life because he or she would always search for the unattainable happiness of a previous life.\" id=\"return-footnote-349-5\" href=\"#footnote-349-5\" aria-label=\"Footnote 5\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[5]<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0had betrayed,<br \/>\nAnd that must sleep, shriek, struggle to escape<br \/>\nAs recollection or the drug decide,<br \/>\nWould think her Son, did she but see that shape<br \/>\nWith sixty or more winters on its head,<br \/>\nA compensation for the pang of his birth,<br \/>\nOr the uncertainty of his setting forth?<\/p>\n<p>VI<\/p>\n<p>Plato thought nature but a spume<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"Froth; insubstantial matter, in contrast, in Plato\u2019s view, to a real substantial ideal world, a \u201cparadigm of things.\u201d\" id=\"return-footnote-349-6\" href=\"#footnote-349-6\" aria-label=\"Footnote 6\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[6]<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0that plays<br \/>\nUpon a ghostly paradigm of things;<br \/>\nSolider Aristotle<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"Aristotle was \u201csolider\u201d in that he believed the physical world we experience is the real world, not the \u201cspume\u201d Plato believed it was.\" id=\"return-footnote-349-7\" href=\"#footnote-349-7\" aria-label=\"Footnote 7\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[7]<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0played the taws<br \/>\nUpon the bottom of a king of kings;<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"Alexander the Great (356 \u2013 323 BC), leader of the Greek confederation, student of Aristotle who strapped him, \u201cplayed the taws,\u201d when he needed discipline.\" id=\"return-footnote-349-8\" href=\"#footnote-349-8\" aria-label=\"Footnote 8\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[8]<\/sup><\/a><br \/>\nWorld-famous golden-thighed Pythagoras<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"Greek philosopher, venerated by his followers who thought he had a golden thigh, the sign of a god. He believed that the beauty of music reflected a universal harmony.\" id=\"return-footnote-349-9\" href=\"#footnote-349-9\" aria-label=\"Footnote 9\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[9]<\/sup><\/a><br \/>\nFingered upon a fiddle-stick or strings<br \/>\nWhat a star sang and careless Muses heard:<br \/>\nOld clothes upon old sticks to scare a bird.<\/p>\n<p>VII<\/p>\n<p>Both nuns and mothers worship images,<br \/>\nBut those the candles light are not as those<br \/>\nThat animate a mother&#8217;s reveries,<br \/>\nBut keep a marble or a bronze repose.<br \/>\nAnd yet they too break hearts \u2014 O presences<br \/>\nThat passion, piety or affection knows,<br \/>\nAnd that all heavenly glory symbolise \u2014<br \/>\nO self-born mockers of man&#8217;s enterprise;<\/p>\n<p>VIII<\/p>\n<p>Labour is blossoming or dancing where<br \/>\nThe body is not bruised to pleasure soul.<br \/>\nNor beauty born out of its own despair,<br \/>\nNor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil.<br \/>\nO chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer,<br \/>\nAre you the leaf, the blossom or the bole<a class=\"footnote\" title=\"Stem or trunk.\" id=\"return-footnote-349-10\" href=\"#footnote-349-10\" aria-label=\"Footnote 10\"><sup class=\"footnote\">[10]<\/sup><\/a>?<br \/>\nO body swayed to music, O brightening glance,<br \/>\nHow can we know the dancer from the dance?<\/p>\n<p><b>\u2014<\/b>\u00a01928<\/p>\n<hr class=\"before-footnotes clear\" \/><div class=\"footnotes\"><ol><li id=\"footnote-349-1\">Yeats was a politician when he wrote the poem, a senator in the Irish Free State.\u00a0The inspiration for this poem was an official visit he made to a school in Waterford in 1926. <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-1\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 1\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><li id=\"footnote-349-2\">Maud Gonne, who was to Yeats the reincarnation of Helen of Troy, the \u201cLedaean body,\u201d in that her mother was Leda.\u00a0See notes to \u201cLeda and the Swan.\u201d <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-2\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 2\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><li id=\"footnote-349-3\">The reference is to Greek philosopher Plato\u2019s <i>Symposium<\/i>, the parable being that the primitive human was spherical, like an egg, divided in the process of evolution.\u00a0Love is the desire to form the sphere again. <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-3\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 3\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><li id=\"footnote-349-4\">Some 15th-century (\u201cQuattrocento\u201d) Italian painters painted women in the anorexic way Maud now appears to Yeats. <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-4\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 4\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><li id=\"footnote-349-5\">The neo-Platonic philosopher, Porphyry, believed that an ambrosia, honey-like drug was released at birth, and if the infant tasted it, he or she would forget about the bliss of prenatal happiness; but if he or she did not taste it, the infant would be condemned to a sad life because he or she would always search for the unattainable happiness of a previous life. <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-5\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 5\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><li id=\"footnote-349-6\">Froth; insubstantial matter, in contrast, in Plato\u2019s view, to a real substantial ideal world, a \u201cparadigm of things.\u201d <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-6\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 6\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><li id=\"footnote-349-7\">Aristotle was \u201csolider\u201d in that he believed the physical world we experience is the real world, not the \u201cspume\u201d Plato believed it was. <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-7\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 7\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><li id=\"footnote-349-8\">Alexander the Great (356 \u2013 323 BC), leader of the Greek confederation, student of Aristotle who strapped him, \u201cplayed the taws,\u201d when he needed discipline. <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-8\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 8\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><li id=\"footnote-349-9\">Greek philosopher, venerated by his followers who thought he had a golden thigh, the sign of a god. He believed that the beauty of music reflected a universal harmony. <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-9\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 9\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><li id=\"footnote-349-10\">Stem or trunk. <a href=\"#return-footnote-349-10\" class=\"return-footnote\" aria-label=\"Return to footnote 10\">&crarr;<\/a><\/li><\/ol><\/div>","protected":false},"author":17,"menu_order":10,"template":"","meta":{"pb_show_title":"on","pb_short_title":"","pb_subtitle":"","pb_authors":["william-butler-yeats"],"pb_section_license":"public-domain"},"chapter-type":[],"contributor":[54],"license":[78],"class_list":["post-349","chapter","type-chapter","status-publish","hentry","contributor-william-butler-yeats","license-public-domain"],"part":324,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/pressbooks\/v2\/chapters\/349","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/pressbooks\/v2\/chapters"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/chapter"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/17"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/pressbooks\/v2\/chapters\/349\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2412,"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/pressbooks\/v2\/chapters\/349\/revisions\/2412"}],"part":[{"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/pressbooks\/v2\/parts\/324"}],"metadata":[{"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/pressbooks\/v2\/chapters\/349\/metadata\/"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=349"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"chapter-type","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/pressbooks\/v2\/chapter-type?post=349"},{"taxonomy":"contributor","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/contributor?post=349"},{"taxonomy":"license","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/opentextbc.ca\/englishliterature\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/license?post=349"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}